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is joining the fediverse 🎉 We can now announce we've been accepted into the funding round that we applied to. nlnet.nl/project/Gitea/

Thank you to @NGIZero @dachary @forgefriends and so many others for getting us to this point.

We are very much looking forward to many wonderful things that federation within forges can support.

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary @forgefriends Oh yes! I've been watching these federation stuff on forgefriends and others for quiet some time and can't wait to test it!

@cj @gitea @NGIZero @forgefriends you initiated the idea of getting this exact grant ... a year ago. Turns out it was an excellent suggestion :-)

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It's very good news that a software like Gitea supports the federation between instances and also using a free standard like activitypub through @forgefriends and being part of the fediverse. Looking forward to its implementation to migrate from GitHub to a Gitea instance :ablobcatheart: 🎉 .

@NGIZero @dachary

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary @forgefriends this is absolutely fantastic and at the top of my software wish list. federated gitea can destroy microsoft's github!

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Absolutely delightful. Congratulations to you, and everyone involved. You all rock🤘

@gitea @NGIZero @forgefriends I'm really happy it worked out 😃

That will be something to talk about during the upcoming webinar on #forge #federation, January 19th 10am UTC+1 📆

forum.forgefriends.org/t/forge

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary woah nice, I have two services I keep on my personal web server. pleroma and gitea and together they cover all of my needs.

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary @forgefriends
Wowwww !!
Incredible to see new apps joining the fediverse! :fediverse: Congratulations for the funding too!

What does joining the fediverse exactly means from a user perspective ? Does Gitea is already fully federated ?
Some features examples would be nice :)

@samuelroland @gitea @NGIZero @forgefriends Gitea is not federated just yet. "Joining" is to be understood as "thanks to the NLnet funding there will be concrete progress to implement federation natively in Gitea" 😉

@dachary @gitea @NGIZero @forgefriends
Ah ok I understand better, thanks. That's very exciting (like every federation stuff actually haha)!
And does it change something for the @forgefriends project (technically or strategically)?

@samuelroland @gitea @NGIZero the ultimate goal of @forgefriends is to be redundant... when all forges natively implement federation. And with this funding Gitea is the first forge to commit to concretely move in this direction, therefore it is indeed a very big step, first of its kind 🎉

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary do you have any comments about why you allow groups like k*w*farms to run gitea? Please revoke their license. https://git.kiwifarms.net/
@gitea @NGIZero @dachary This is absolutely a huge deal!

It also hopefully means that @codeberg will be able to federate with other forges!

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary @forgefriends Cool! Looking forward for that :)

Are there any thoughts about changing to a more sustainable licence like the #AGPL? With federation this gets especially important. The MIT licence makes 'embrace, extend, extinguish' extremely easy: Company X creates a proprietary Gitea fork, federates with the existing instances, makes significant improvements/offers to lure people into their product. Changing to their instance is smooth thanks to federation.

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... I assume (but don't know) that many people who invest their time into Gitea would be quite pissed with something like that happening.
If that's the case, then the AGPL is the better choice.

Corporations are maybe not yet after the Fediverse, but they will once it grows.

Of course, the MIT is a better choice if you want to work for future corporations instead of future users :)

@vovanium @NGIZero @dachary @gitea @forgefriends
I'm not talking about improvements in the federation protocol. I mean other improvements in Gitea which make it more attractive: integration with some other cloud platform, etc.

But you got the point:

You get the improvements if you move to the improved instance. But not the other way. You can move without much costs, you can still communicate with the other instance as you did before. But the other instances don't have the improvements.

@t0k@social.tchncs.de @NGIZero@mastodon.xyz @dachary@mastodon.online @gitea@social.gitea.io @forgefriends@mastodon.online Non-federated features? I think there's already github for this. (i more afraid it got federated, as XMPP was nearly killed similar way)
Anyway, i don't see a reason to name EEE strategy 'super-easy' even with source code readily available, as it involves months to years of marketing.

@t0k @gitea @NGIZero @forgefriends the forgefriends codebase is published under #AGPL. It would make sense to me that #Gitea is published under #AGPL but that's a different discussion that needs to happen with the maintainers.

github.com/go-gitea/gitea/blob

@dachary @gitea @NGIZero @forgefriends Nice :) Yes, I agree, this involves the #Gitea team. Unfortunately I don't know them and their motivations. But as a user I'd welcome the AGPL because it's like a promise of good intentions :)

Also it seems quite a successful approach when looking at the fediverse and projects like Nextcloud. People start appreciating the guarantee that they won't be trapped with a change towards a proprietary licence.

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary @forgefriends
This is really great, thank you :blobcatheart:

We desperately need federated issue-tracking/PRs to emancipate ourselves from GitHub!

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary @forgefriends Anyone here knows whether everything of Gitea will work if I use the GNU LibreJS extension?

@gitea ooh yesss how awesome! Congratulations everyone! I'm so excited I'm going to install #Gitea right away even though it's not got federation yet 😅

(I've been vaguely thinking of moving some stuff of :gitlab: #Gitlab, which is already migrated from :github: #GitHub. I guess now's the trigger 🔫 )

Side note to @fosstodon: does this call for a new emoji?

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary @forgefriends

Is this looking at federating things like comments and issues with the fediverse, or is this just about code? We REALLY need a fediverse answer to Github, to start getting the many FOSS projects on a proprietary microsoft platform onto a more privacy and FOSS friendly environment. Hoping this is a move towards this!

Anyway, either way, congrats on the funding win!

@Blort @gitea @NGIZero @forgefriends It is about federating a development project as whole, not just code. Hence issues, pull/merge requests etc.

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I feel bit dumb asking this but does this mean i can use my mastodon account as a gitea account? Or is this more about all gitea instances can talk with each other?

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary @forgefriends Awesome! Is there an estimate of when Gitea's federation support will be production-ready?

@ta180m @gitea @NGIZero @forgefriends it's impossible to say for sure but I suspect 2022 will be about preparing the ground for federation. And maybe something will be user facing next year. Wild guess on my part though 😄

@dachary @gitea @NGIZero @forgefriends Cool, looks like 2022 will be an exicitng year! Is there a particular Git repo where federation development is taking place right now? I'm interested in getting involved and helping out, but I'm not sure where to start.

@ta180m @gitea @NGIZero @forgefriends it's happening in the Gitea & forgefriends repositories. Would you like to join the chat room to discuss this further?

matrix.to/#/#general-forgefed:

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary @forgefriends very exciting - i'd just about given up on seeing real movement on this kind of thing, looking forward to what comes out of this effort.

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary @forgefriends This is simply amazing. Looking forward to this. I am tired of multitude of centralized code hosting services.

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A federation-oriented project like #Gitea deserves to be under #AGPL to protect the user community and the ecosystem.

@gitea @NGIZero @dachary @forgefriends

This is super exciting and much needed. Thank you to everyone involved for kicking things off!

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